tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post3857110250646632459..comments2023-06-01T06:21:17.313-04:00Comments on Her Authority: Hijacking Feminism: The Feminists Who Hate WomenProChoiceGalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07220695159759063365noreply@blogger.comBlogger90125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-77380599713231483392010-04-30T22:37:58.269-04:002010-04-30T22:37:58.269-04:00This was... Confusing.
That Anon started attackin...This was... Confusing.<br /><br />That Anon started attacking you out of no where.<br /><br />I think it's very simple. True feminists believe that women deserve rights.<br /><br />In many undeveloped countries, women are worthless: they go from the rule of their fathers to the rule of their husbands, they're beaten and raped by these men and others, and their bodies are covered from head to toe in burqas. All this is because the men ruling these countries don't believe women have control over their bodies.<br /><br />Feminists believe women should have control over their bodies. To think otherwise encourages the oppression of women. It's really that simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-85464387722544939902010-04-11T20:48:29.407-04:002010-04-11T20:48:29.407-04:00"There is NOT a 0% chance that a women will d..."There is NOT a 0% chance that a women will die from pregnancy or childbirth related complications. And many such complications arise when it is too late to save them and, thus, the FEtus. "<br /><br /><br />That's ironic since the vast majority of pro-lifers do believe that women should have right to abort if their lives are endangered as result of them having the unborn (out of principle of self-defense and right to lives of their own).<br /><br />But, hey, don't let that being a lie stop you from spewing your propaganda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-77081512057469914682010-04-11T20:46:28.175-04:002010-04-11T20:46:28.175-04:00"To the second last anonymous: Btw, fetuses h..."To the second last anonymous: Btw, fetuses have the same rights as everyone else, WITH the ProChoice movement."<br /><br />No, they don't, and your next sentence refutes this.<br /><br /><br />"White people that were slave-owners wanted to infringe on the rights of Black people even more by making them slaves. Just like ProLifers want fetuses to infringe on the woman's rights, even more by forcing gestation. Nope, doesn't sound like ProCHOICERS support slavery."<br /><br />No, you support murder, which is worse than slavery. 1000 times worse. Slavery treats people like property. You treat the unborn like property but not as slaves, but as those you believe should be allowed to be murdered, then on top of that, you blame them for getting themselves killed.<br /><br />The unborn as result of consensual sex does not infringe on the woman's right. The woman (and the man) did the act that put the unborn into living and put the unborn in position to depend on the woman.<br /><br />By saying that you have the right to kill the unborn, you don't believe the unborn have the same rights as everyone- right to life obviously, right to liberty (in being secured from bodily harm), and property (since the unborn has body of his or her own, and that bodily integrity you so preach, you deny to others). In your view they should not have due process, for their rights to life, liberty, and property to be taken away.<br /><br />Criminals, including mass murderers, have more rights than the unborn!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-88970062627321687372010-04-10T21:31:53.174-04:002010-04-10T21:31:53.174-04:00To the most recent anonymous: Umm, are women just...To the most recent anonymous: Umm, are women just reporting the number of abortions more or are they just aborting more frequently since abortion became legal? Hmmm... are women reporting rape more often or are there just more rapes occurring, since it became illegal? If you answered the latter for both then, yes, I guess you can, falsely, assume that women are being fed lies about both rape and abortion. But if you answered the former on rape and the latter on abortion, I guess you have just publicly exposed your own desire to 'have your cake and eat it, too' lies.<br /><br />Besides lies spread about pregnancy are MUCH more common. It's a mere 'inconvenience'. I don't know how many times I've heard that. But facts, of course, don't bear the PL lies out, as usual. Pregnancy is the second leading cause of death, worldwide. Yet, antis seem to think and continue to proclaim that pregnancy occurs in a vacuum and that the fetus just magically appears when it's born. This made so by sheer virtue of the fact that they have to ignore the non-obliviate, thinking, feeling, sensate woman to deny her the same rights that everyone else has, grant the obliviate, insensate, non-thinking and non-feeling fetus MORE rights than anyone born and claim that pregnancy is not life-threatening. It always is. There is NOT a 0% chance that a women will die from pregnancy or childbirth related complications. And many such complications arise when it is too late to save them and, thus, the FEtus. <br /><br />To the second last anonymous: Btw, fetuses have the same rights as everyone else, WITH the ProChoice movement. White people that were slave-owners wanted to infringe on the rights of Black people even more by making them slaves. Just like ProLifers want fetuses to infringe on the woman's rights, even more by forcing gestation. Nope, doesn't sound like ProCHOICERS support slavery.<br /><br />Btw, many of the founders of the United States were racist. Are you going to attribute that to the time and day they grew up in or are you going to show some consistency and say that they would have been racist even in this day and age? It is unfortunate but that IS a seemingly obvious point that you continue to miss for some reason.<br /><br />Rape = unwanted sex. Forced gestation = unwanted pregnancy. Guess what. If there were no right to bodily autonomy, there would be no such thing as rape. NEITHER unwanted sex or unwanted pregnancy could lead to rape OR forced gestation, after all.freewomansholyinheritancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12361662104992268333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-62218573550678193072010-04-05T13:47:12.084-04:002010-04-05T13:47:12.084-04:00Abortions have greatly increased since it was lega...Abortions have greatly increased since it was legalized. Are women now just making better choices or perpetuating the lies that were fed to them? Hmmmmmmmm . . . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-81733978788423351442010-04-05T12:11:57.084-04:002010-04-05T12:11:57.084-04:00"Otherwise, you just want to be in charge of ..."Otherwise, you just want to be in charge of other women's lives, and that's not your right as feminists or women or human beings."<br /><br /><br />Same arguments slaveowners used against abolitionists. And like them, this don't wash.<br /><br />When your choices infringe on rights of others to live, it becomes the rest of society's problem, and even more so when it is legalized.<br /><br />Otherwise, you can't complain or demand acts you find heinous to be made illegal, like murdering abortion doctors (which I also find heinous as well), since you are telling others what to do and interfering with their choices what they want to do, and yes that includes doing what they want to do with their own bodies (since firing guns involve body parts like hands and arms).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-80682816791442063742010-04-05T12:05:47.498-04:002010-04-05T12:05:47.498-04:00"It seems to me that people who want to legis..."It seems to me that people who want to legislate the decisions women make about their own bodies simply don't trust women to be able to make those decisions themselves, and arrive at the 'right' answer ~ because to someone who is anti-choice, any answer that does not agree with THEIR point of view is 'wrong'."<br /><br />And to anyone who disagree with, they are wrong and anti-choice, so spare us the hypocrisy there.<br /><br />As well as the hypocrisy of you claiming those who disagree with you are opposed to choices.<br /><br />No, we are not. We are opposed to choices that violate the rights of others.<br /><br />But since you want to argue the right to do what one wants with one's own bodies, guess what? Choking someone to death, abusing a child or spouse, raping someone, etc., etc., all involved CHOICE by that person to do what he or she wants to do with his or her own body. It just happens that CHOICE happens to also INFRINGE on the rights of others.<br /><br />Folks who are degenerates can claim that those are just CHOICES and those who are for making laws against those CHOICES are ANTI-CHOICE and anyone who want to legislate morality against these things don't trust them to do what is right in their own eyes in regards to what they do with their own bodies- even if that INFRINGES on rights of others.<br /><br />If they use that argument, guess what? It is the SAME ARGUMENT as yours, but only for different crimes and violations of rights of others on other issues. But same rhetoric.<br /><br />Just because a person is a man who can make choices does not mean we should allow all choices legally for that person. Just because a person is a woman who can make choices does not mean we should allow all choices legally for that person as well.<br /><br />Not if those choices infringe on rights of others.<br /><br />Basically, by your logic, if you oppose others certain rights to choose certain things you find to be HEINOUS CRIMES, you would be ANTI-CHOICE.<br /><br />Sorry, but choices are NOT created equal. Some do NOT deserve to be allowed to be legally sanctioned, and even YOUR SIDE of the debate can't dispute that.<br /><br />And even your rights to bodily autonomy in regards to your child is limited- can't do hardcore drugs while carrying the baby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-81195969217883156872010-04-05T11:57:10.055-04:002010-04-05T11:57:10.055-04:00"Oh, that's who you are. That explains it..."Oh, that's who you are. That explains it."<br /><br />Not the previous anon, but Punisher back on.<br /><br />It's called being a fan of comic book movie action heroes like Punisher, Batman, Daredevil, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-63227851614945284372010-04-05T11:55:22.192-04:002010-04-05T11:55:22.192-04:00It seems to me that people who want to legislate t...It seems to me that people who want to legislate the decisions women make about their own bodies simply don't trust women to be able to make those decisions themselves, and arrive at the 'right' answer ~ because to someone who is anti-choice, any answer that does not agree with THEIR point of view is 'wrong'.<br /><br />It's hard for me to find a feminist position in that. <br /><br />Sure, promote your point of view, believe whatever you want, but give other women the credit to make decisions based on their own beliefs ~ even if they differ to yours.<br /><br />Otherwise, you just want to be in charge of other women's lives, and that's not your right as feminists or women or human beings.OutWestWomannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-1820910501667200992010-04-04T19:04:06.409-04:002010-04-04T19:04:06.409-04:00"I'll respond again when you seem interes..."I'll respond again when you seem interested in a civil discussion"<br /><br />PCG you cannot have a civil discussion with a prolifer because you hate us that much. You'd like us all on an island by ourselves doing something to ourselves that is not even physically possible. <br /><br />Sure would love to refer my daughters and her friends to a caring doctor such as yourself. Just saying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-4056347489663941512010-04-04T17:52:16.182-04:002010-04-04T17:52:16.182-04:00"God bless and stay strong,
Punisher "
..."God bless and stay strong,<br /><br />Punisher "<br /><br />Oh, that's who you are. That explains it.ProChoiceGalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07220695159759063365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-46869196219054118782010-04-04T16:41:32.024-04:002010-04-04T16:41:32.024-04:00"You honestly want feminists of today to have..."You honestly want feminists of today to have the same values as feminists from her time?"<br /><br />Not my point at all. I am asking for your own consistency. If you are going to condemn a whole movement as pro-rape, then be consistent and condemn those of the past like SBA as well for that. If she was not feminist, I seriously doubt from how you post, that you would have any restraint from accusing her of such.<br /><br />And it is you who claim after all pro-life feminists hijack the term feminism. So by what standard?<br /><br />The original feminists don't hold to your views on this issue.<br /><br />So how can pro-life feminists possibly be guilty of hijacking a view that originally was made of those who AGREED with them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-42733837274813059662010-04-04T16:38:05.361-04:002010-04-04T16:38:05.361-04:00"I'll respond again when you seem interes..."I'll respond again when you seem interested in a civil discussion. Have a good Easter."<br /><br /><br />I am being VERY CIVIL to you in this blog entry of yours. I am merely pointing logical implications.<br /><br />Compare that to what you say about others here and on prolife blogs. Civil hardly can be used to define how you say things. You provoked alot of like mannered responses, including from me (and I do admit I got too harsh at you then and there at times, and I am sorry), then complain about those words said to you, when they are replicate of what you said to them previously.<br /><br />My point stands...SBA was prolife. And the standards you claim about what is pro-rape are standards you and those in your own circle of diehard abortionists make up in terms of definition. So no matter what times she lived in, by your own standards, she was pro-rape in her times.<br /><br />You said it yourself: there are folks who may have held to sexist and racist views back then and did not hold to what you deem progressive views. Sorry, but by admitting to that, you are also admitting the same for SBA. <br /><br />You have no problem calling Mozart racist and sexist, no matter the times he lived in. You have no problem accusing others of such living today, but you can't apply those same standards to those who were feminists living in the times of others like Mozart who you have no problem saying as such.<br /><br />Just pointing out your inconsistencies and moving of goalposts.<br /><br />Happy easter, and no matter our differences here and on the other blogs I do wish you well and like I said before, I am sorry what happened to you, and I hope that guy who did it to you get a life prison sentence. And as said in above post, I can speak for any given prolifer, in that any of us would have fight for you, if we were there and can stop it, or die trying. <br /><br />I will try to be gentle to you as much as I can in my responses, even if I feel many times your posts were repulsive and insensitive to those who have been victimized themselves but don't share your beliefs. I don't want to do anything that might hurt you anymore than you already are. Not saying I know how it feels like to be you after all you been through (I can't), but I do know I should not be so harsh in like manner to your posts in that other blog, where I was not as civil as I can be here, knowing what you went through. I am sorry, regardless of what you said to me, for being harsh to you back.<br /><br />God bless and stay strong,<br /><br />PunisherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-76606213792911019012010-04-04T12:54:33.214-04:002010-04-04T12:54:33.214-04:00Anonymous @1:30AM
Do you know when Susan B Anthon...Anonymous @1:30AM<br /><br />Do you know when Susan B Anthony lived? 1820-1906. I'm sure she held a LOT of values that would be considered sexist and racist in our time. That doesn't mean that she was a great feminist FOR HER TIME. You honestly want feminists of today to have the same values as feminists from her time? Mozart was a great composer, but he sexist and racist. If a music artist were as sexist and racist as he was today, I would never listen to his or her music. But I don't expect Mozart to have the same progressive values as I do.<br /><br /><br />And past that, I'm not going to bother any more. I'll respond again when you seem interested in a civil discussion. Have a good Easter.ProChoiceGalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07220695159759063365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-82441223704797140192010-04-04T11:37:53.166-04:002010-04-04T11:37:53.166-04:00"You anti-choicers are flat out living in you..."You anti-choicers are flat out living in your own worlds. Please go on a deserted island and go fuck yourselves."<br /><br />PCG - to show how mentally balanced you truly are, please write another article entitled Pro-choice Love. The above quote could go on the top of the list.<br /><br />You are such a SHAM and HIPPOCRITE! The Truth can set you Free.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-38433370051490975762010-04-04T08:48:55.393-04:002010-04-04T08:48:55.393-04:00"You anti-choicers are flat out living in you..."You anti-choicers are flat out living in your own worlds. Please go on a deserted island and go fuck yourselves."<br /><br /><br />More proof you can't refute our position and can't refute the arguments about slavery/abortion comparisons. There are many in regards to the rhetoric that BOTH slaveowners AND pro-abortionists/pro-choicers use.<br /><br />It is like pro-choicers went through a checklist of what arguments slaveowners used and used all those arguments for today.<br /><br />I know that's not the case, but the many parallels are there- and frightening.<br /><br />Slaveowners themselves argued by the way for freedom of CHOICE for themselves. That choice to own slaves.<br /><br />So I guess argument for choice may sound great, until we know what that choice is, right?<br /><br />And you are the one with the bs trying to argue we don't care about women dying.<br /><br />It's bs on many different levels.<br /><br />Like I stated before, most of us do allow exception for mother's life in danger.<br /><br />But we all know your side's dishonesty on this one. Your side is for abortion rights in all cases, no matter what the circumstance is. So even our side allow exceptions in extreme cases like that, your side is still saying not good enough.<br /><br />So your argument that abortion should be allowed on the basis of that case scenerio is still disingenous. Most of your opposition grant that exception, and then we all know that's not your goal- your goal is unadulterated abortion rights, so women can "abort" their mistakes, rather than take responsibility for children they help conceived with their men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-55343734332410201372010-04-04T08:36:14.128-04:002010-04-04T08:36:14.128-04:00"I can't address YOUR analogy of slavery ..."I can't address YOUR analogy of slavery because there is none. "<br /><br />You can't because you can't argue your points, period, so you resort to dishonest diatribes, namecallings, etc. If the analogy falls flat you would be able to refute it. But you can't- which speaks volumes.<br /><br />You blast us as illogical, yet your screeching posts reveal your own lack of logical skills. If all you got is calling us by f words and telling us how we don't care if women die, then it says how much you need to take your own advice.<br /><br />Oh by the way, the vast majority of prolifers including myself DO ALLOW for exception in the case of mother's life in danger.<br /><br />So embarrassing of you to claim falsely about what we believe.<br /><br />If I did not know any better, I would think you are some troll pretending to be pro-choice to make all pro-choicers look bad but then again I see famous pro-choicers acting the way you do, so never mind that.<br /><br />So funny you accuse pro-life feminists of hijacking feminism, when original, feminists were ANTI-ABORTIONS and opposed RIGHT to choose what they saw as MURDER OF CHILDREN.<br /><br />If anything, YOUR SIDE hijacked feminism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-63405993998560007282010-04-04T02:26:06.688-04:002010-04-04T02:26:06.688-04:00Hijacking this brand of feminism is the least of y...Hijacking this brand of feminism is the least of your worries. Please, keep it. We don't want it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-14775233677310957162010-04-04T02:19:53.186-04:002010-04-04T02:19:53.186-04:00Hey antichoicers,
one of you fuckers said that wo...Hey antichoicers,<br /><br />one of you fuckers said that women should strive to be perfect. So how the fuck do you get out of bed every morning?<br /><br />It must be hard being you - wow you're a mother, and most likely a **** going by the diatribes on this blog. <br /><br />and love that fucker who tried to make out as if others are unreasonable. LOLOLOL, please write more and let others besides your antichoice ilk see the truth and your illogical crap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-74174182463844067152010-04-04T02:16:58.971-04:002010-04-04T02:16:58.971-04:00This argument that women who have abortions are ba...This argument that women who have abortions are bad feminists because they abort female fetuses is just bullshit as well.<br /><br />So if a woman dies or will die from having a child then it's a fetuses life over a woman's?<br /><br />You fuckers are WACK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-53836571176806549802010-04-04T02:11:18.715-04:002010-04-04T02:11:18.715-04:00I can't address YOUR analogy of slavery becaus...I can't address YOUR analogy of slavery because there is none. <br /><br />Wow, but you antichoicers who strive to be perfect and think women are perfect are the epitome of ad hominem attacks and sickening diatribes. <br /><br />Really I'm an abortionist because I support a women's right to choose?<br /><br />"Study some history before you embarrass yourself any further.<br /><br />Start with the Southern declarations of causes of secession."<br /><br />You anti-choicers are flat out living in your own worlds. Please go on a deserted island and go fuck yourselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-40888552668188770752010-04-04T01:38:12.563-04:002010-04-04T01:38:12.563-04:00Let's put it this way- I can speak for myself ...Let's put it this way- I can speak for myself and many pro-lifers, that if we were there, when the guy attacked you, we would have done all we could to prevent that, and guys like me would have been prepared to fight to the death to stop that if we were there (given my mentality real men don't do that and deserve a good whopping if they try to in my presence). Just because we find your rantings way off-base does not mean we value your life any less. <br /><br />I hope you know and remember that. <br /><br />And I am sorry that it happened to you. No one deserved it. None. Zero.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-26260161845902975062010-04-04T01:30:24.778-04:002010-04-04T01:30:24.778-04:00"You've completely ignored what I said ab..."You've completely ignored what I said about SBA being a good feminist for her time."<br /><br /><br />No, I didn't. I call for what it is: nonsense.<br /><br />She was a feminist alright, but the kind that by your logic, would be anti-woman, anti-feminist, pro-rapist, for her time, too.<br /><br />You simply want to move the goalposts since your arguments of your opposition as pro-rapist came back to bite your behind.<br /><br /><br />"I have a feeling that you just don't want to admit that you're wrong."<br /><br />Something you excel at.<br /><br />"Ask yourself this: Is what you're doing actually promoting discussion?"<br /><br />I am discussing alright. Your inflammatory attakcs on those you disagree with on the other hand is the very opposite of promoting discussion.<br /><br />I simply take your own rhetoric and take it to its basic logical implication. If you don't like your own rhetoric being done that way, don't use it in the first place. It's simple as that.<br /><br /><br />"Is smearing me and trying to make me look like an evil person helping anyone but yourself?"<br /><br />No, that's something you do and you do much of in regards to those that disagree with you. Playing they are pro-rape card to ridiculous lengths then can't take it when that is thrown right back at you.<br /><br />Funny, you are accusing others of doing something that you are blatantly guilty of!<br /><br />"Is ignoring all of the points that I make really getting us anywhere?"<br /><br />I did not ignore your points.<br /><br />Your point has nothing do, however, with your blog entry, but is obsfucating the simple fact that in trying to claim those who hold to prolife are pro-rapist, etc., you end up doing the same to original feminists like SBA.<br /><br />Your "point" on her is simply pure unadulterated revisionism. Her own words outright call abortion murder and any woman doing it awfully guilty of the crime.<br /><br />"Are you really going to change hearts like this?"<br /><br />Ask yourself that.<br /><br />Your rhetoric consists of demonizing folks and making them as evil as you can make them and imputing all the false motives you can creatively come up with, claiming over and over they are pro-rapists.<br /><br />So, that's rich coming from you.<br /><br />"You're obviously not as interested in helping people as you are in trying to piss me off."<br /><br />No, I am refuting your over the top, hate-filled rhetoric.<br /><br />You sure show your contempt for female victims of rape, if they don't agree with you on abortion, and you insult them with impunity.<br /><br />Funny, given you exist on prolife blogs to piss folks off with smears and namecallings, that you should whine about your own arguments being used against you, logically nad skillfully.<br /><br />"Take your son's advice and stop trying to cause tension. I have not and I will not let you get to me, so your efforts are fruitless."<br /><br />Don't have a son, and it is obvious, it is getting to you, even though my intent is more to show how way off your rhetoric is (not to get to you per se).<br /><br />So rather than deal with the merits of what I said, falsely accuse me of ignoring all your points (ironic since you do alot of ignoring of points of others yourself so you can keep bashing them) and then put yourself on the pedestal that you are about discussion and civility, neither traits you display very often to those you disagree with on this issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-85570131411142318352010-04-04T01:11:23.208-04:002010-04-04T01:11:23.208-04:00You've completely ignored what I said about SB...You've completely ignored what I said about SBA being a good feminist for her time. <br /><br />"Med texts also define human life as beginning at conception"<br /><br />I never said otherwise. I said that medical texts define infancy as the first year of extrauterine life. I have a feeling that you just don't want to admit that you're wrong.<br /><br />Ask yourself this: Is what you're doing actually promoting discussion? Is smearing me and trying to make me look like an evil person helping anyone but yourself? Is ignoring all of the points that I make really getting us anywhere? Are you really going to change hearts like this?<br /><br />You're obviously not as interested in helping people as you are in trying to piss me off. Take your son's advice and stop trying to cause tension. I have not and I will not let you get to me, so your efforts are fruitless.ProChoiceGalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07220695159759063365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3719317745802879347.post-28160515510674430552010-04-04T01:06:50.065-04:002010-04-04T01:06:50.065-04:00"On medical terms, I'll trust my medical ..."On medical terms, I'll trust my medical textbook over SBA. Why are you ignoring real, medical definitions?"<br /><br /><br />Med texts also define human life as beginning at conception, so by logic, that makes abortion MURDER of human life.<br /><br />No, you just trust it when it suits you.<br /><br />Regardless though, it is very telling you hide behind med textbook rather than deal with logical implications of your claims that those who disagree with you on abortion are pro-rapists: by such standard, that means SBA and other classical original feminists were, regardless of what you wish to be today, were pro-rapists, anti-women, and anti-feminists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com